2015 NFL Draft: Marcus Mariota – The Detroit Lions

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Over the next five weeks, FishDuck.com Feature Writer Caleb Couturie will be analyzing the 25 teams in the NFL Draft that may look to select Marcus Mariota.

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No 21: The Detroit Lions

DET’s Draft Pick: Twenty Third

DET’s 2015 Cap Space: $21,044,354

DET’s Top Needs: DB, OL, K/QB

Matthew Stafford puts up some pretty insane numbers. The six year veteran, a starter for his last four years, has thrown for at least 4,250 yards each season he’s been a starter as well as at least twenty touchdowns. Pretty great, right? Wrong. Stafford is a product of a system that allows for hugely inflated numbers, and he also has one of the best receivers of all time to throw to. Even though Stafford has ranked in the top ten in yards passing each of the last four years, he’s only ranked in the top ten QBR’s once. That year, his first year as a starter, was a clear outlier in his career and ever since he’s continued to regress into an average at best starting QB.

A lot of QBs can throw for over 4,000 yards when given 600+ passing attempts (see Connor Halliday), but very few can do it efficiently. Stafford is not one of those few. Detroit, especially its offense, has talent pouring out of its ears but if they ever stand a chance at a title Stafford needs to go. So what do they do? They bring in Marcus Mariota.

HOW IT CAN HAPPEN:

You want to talk about assets? Detroit has assets, and lots of em’. Since Detroit is so good, their late draft picks alone won’t be enough to sway Tampa Bay for the No. 1 pick. So instead, here’s the trade:

Detroit Trades: Matthew Stafford, Brandon Pettigrew, Joique Bell, and 2015 first round pick

Tampa Bay Trades: No. 1 pick

For both teams, this is a huge win-win.

The obvious addition for the Bucs would be Stafford, a prototypical QB who can make some big throws. Stafford’s proven he has the ability to be a talented QB, but for whatever reason he struggled in Detroit. A location change might help him a lot, and working with one of the all time greats, Lovie Smith, should help him develop.

Austin Seferian-Jenkins is a rookie tight end in TB with huge promise, and Pettigrew’s experience could really help him progress. TB is desperately in need of a TE that can help stretch the field and open up space for Mike Evans, and Pettigrew can also help with that. The sixth year TE caught a career high 83 passes just four years ago, but Detroit’s offense moved in a different direction and Pettigrew saw less and less targets. A change of scenery might be just what Pettigrew needs, and TB’s vertical offense would benefit him greatly. The addition of Bell would also finally give TB a solid rushing offense, since the once promising Doug Martin appears to be a one-trick pony. Bell runs with both power and speed, traits that helped him rush for 860 yards this season while splitting time with Reggie Bush in the back field. Given full time duties, many (including myself) believe Bell could do serious damage.

For Detroit, they not only allow for Eric Ebron to receive more snaps at TE, but they also move up to get a QB who can really boost their offense’s productivity. Mariota’s unique skill set is one that plays really well into this offense, and combining his ability to make plays with Calvin Johnson‘s will cause Detroit to give opposing DCs nightmares. The loss of Bell hurts, but Detroit can always draft another RB later in one of the later rounds since this year appears to be loaded with talent at the RB position.

HOW MARIOTA WOULD DO IN DET:

Honestly, it’d be pretty hard to do badly. If a QB like Stafford could produce the numbers he could, imagine what Mariota could do. Stafford had one gift, and that was a cannon of an arm. What Mariota lacks (slightly) in arm strength, he makes up for in agility, play extension, roll-out ability and leadership. Detroit is a playoff team, but Stafford was never going to take them deep enough.

With an offensive minded coach like Jim Caldwell, Detroit could revamp their offense to play to Mariota’s skill sets and truly do some damage out in the NFC North. Play actions with Mariota throwing to Johnson on verticals, jet sweeps with Bush, and bubble screens with Golden Tate would stretch out opposing defenses and constantly keep the other team guessing. Although it would take a lot of work, Caldwell might need to take a page out of Chip Kelly‘s book. It’s hard to argue with the results, at least.

WOULD HE START?:

Probably, yes. Once Stafford is out of the picture Detroit’s best option is Dan Orlovsky, which isn’t really an option at all. Hopefully Detroit’s front office would sign a veteran QB to a two year deal so Mariota could develop for a year, but it’s not worth betting on.

QUICK HITS:

DET’s Projected Record with Mariota: 12-4

DET’s Projected Record W/O Mariota: 9-7

Mariota’s first year stats: 4,300 yards passing/31 pass TDS/14 Ints/6 Rushing TDs

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Caleb Couturie

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Caleb is a sophomore at the University of Oregon intending to double major in Journalism and Sports Management. He is the Managing Editor for FishDuck.com, along with being a lifetime Saints and San Francisco Giants fan, as Caleb fell in love with sports at a young age and developed that love into a passion for sports analysis. He is looking forward to cheering on the Ducks throughout his career at Oregon, and is always willing to talk sports with any fellow fan.

  • Anthony Joseph Gomes

    when we think of MM going to the lions it brings back the deja vu memories of another oregon QB named joey harrington who became the fall guy for everything that was wrong with the detroit franchise which was rotting out from the top down. linemen were proud to admit they didnt block for harrington sometimes. sorry…i dont want to send another duck signal caller to detroit

    • Caleb

      Understandable. To be fair, this is a much better Detroit team.

  • Ripley

    First of all, this will never happen.

    Detroit has several other needs.

    I love how absolutely everyone on the planet loves to pick on Stafford. All of the amatuer football analysts absolutely love to just nag on this guy, but if you check out ESPN- they have said the same thing repeatedly. “Matthew Stafford is gunning for Payton Manning”

    Yep.

    But, hey, his numbers are average. I guess Kiper and ESPN are all wrong. Or, maybe they see something you don’t. Either way, Stafford is the D’s starting quarterback, and will be for a while. You can basically count on it. The only thing you can’t count on, is his backup. please, Detroit, please fix the backup situation.

    These articles, while cute, only bring about conversation. Not much comes out of this. I’m fairly certain most of you are bright enough to know it just won’t happen.

    Detroit is busy trying to keep suh, and they should be. They aren’t worried about Stafford. But, personally, I’d trade Johnson before I got rid of Stafford or suh. We definitely need to get rid of Bush and Pettigrew, and I would like to see D build up the offensive line. But, Of course, they will draft for defense (someone to play opposite slay), draft a wide receiver, and try to find a backup quarterback.

    Then again, who am I to say? I just read ESPN

    • Caleb

      I am the writer of all of these articles, and yes I agree with you that most are incredibly unlikely situations (such as this), but I’m sorry if you think Stafford is anything besides average. Also, if you actually read ESPN (the source where most of my numbers and research come from anyway), you’d see how average Stafford is. He only reaches the numbers he does because Detroit allows him 600+ passing attempts per game. This past season he didn’t rank in the top ten in any of these categories: QBR, yards per attempt, touchdowns, or what’s probably scariest, completion percentage (which he ranked 25th our of 32 qualified QBs). You’re welcome to your own opinion, but to call me uninformed might be a tiny bit of a stretch.

      • Caleb

        per season, not per game.

  • David

    What a complete joke of an “article”. Let me guess, in your “esteemed opinion”, Mariotta is a great fit and instant star for every team, right? 4300 yards and 31 TD, his rookie year? Sure, that’s reasonable; happens all the time. Laughable.

    As I was reading, I was thinking this sounds like something a high school kid with a crush on his favorite college QB would write. Then I get to the end and find out that exactly what it is. Look, I get it: you’re a freshman at Oregon, therefore in your opinion he is the second coming. You like to write, and can look up stats on ESPN. Someday you may realize how ridiculous this article is. Until then, here’s a couple tips:

    If you want credibility, try to pretend you are objective.
    Don’t spend half your article trying to build a case that Stafford is horrible, then turn around and say any team would trade the number 1 overall pick for a horrible QB and a couple role players.
    Don’t further destroy any credibility touting Lovie Smith as an “all time great” coach who would help any QB develop. The guy has never done anything to suggest he knows theslightest thing about QB development, or really offense in general.

    • Caleb

      The point of this project I’m working on is to examine every team that will take a look at Mariota. The stats I come up with are based off of the situations Mariota would be placed in, so when I say he will throw for 4,300 yards that’s based off of the system he would be in that would allow him to throw for more than 600 pass attempts his rookie season (Stafford threw for 5,038 yards with 663 attempts his first full season in Detroit). I don’t think Stafford is horrible, I think he is average and posts inflated numbers because of a system he’s in. If you’re going to call Mariota “horrible” (which by the way proves to me you have zero credibility any how), you should at least be fair and recognize Stafford’s numbers are a byproduct of the system he was in. And no, in my “esteemed opinion” as you so politely put it, I don’t think Mariota is a good fit for every team. I do think that there are 25 front offices, Detroit included, who will at least look at game footage of Mariota and analyze if he’s worth it. Just because I went to Oregon doesn’t mean I’m biased towards recognizing talent. Sure the system allowed for great numbers here at UO, but Mariota maximized the system to its fullest potential, having not only the best season in Duck history but one of the best seasons in College football history. Thank you for the read, and for the uniformed criticism.

      • David

        Never did I state or even imply Mariota is horrible, as you say. In fact, I never actually stated my opinion of either QB you mentioned in this article at all.

        However, you again show your bias in your reply, saying “…Stafford’s numbers are a byproduct of the system he was in”, yet then go on to say, “…the system allowed for great numbers here at UO, but Mariota maximized the system…” So, putting up great numbers due to the system is a negative for one guy, but a positive for the other? But you have no bias here, right?

        You are welcome for the criticism, but it hardly uninformed.

        • Caleb

          But that’s just the thing. Stafford’s numbers aren’t great, they’re average. The only thing he has going for him is the yardage. He’s been on the decline since 2011. He puts up good numbers, at best, in Detroit when if another QB were thrown into that scheme they could put up amazing numbers. Imagine what someone like Aaron Rodgers could do with 600+ passing attempts. Mariota’s numbers compared to Stafford’s isn’t even a comparison. They’re in two different leagues. And I do admit to misreading your comment however I still do not agree that Stafford is doing any better than Mariota, or for the most part any pro QB, would do in Detroit.

          • David

            Well, now here is something I finally agree with you on. Aaron Rogers would put up great numbers in any system. Of course, he has already made a strong case for himself as one of the top QB’s in league history. The implication that Mariota is anything like Rogers, though is a gigantic stretch.

            Speaking of the system, which system are you talking about? The Scott Linehan offense the Lions employed until 2014, or the current offense Lombardi is trying to implement? They are not anything alike, so I’m curious which system you believe Mariota would excel in. Or by “system”, do you just mean “a lot of pass attempts”?

            Mariota might turn out to be a good pro…and he might not. There are a lot of things he hasn’t done…like run a pro style offense, pass with consistency from a pocket, throw against tight NFL coverage, absorb NFL hits. Expecting over 4000 yards and 30 touchdowns from him as a rookie is pretty far fetched in any system.

            This is the entire point I’m trying to make: you are projecting instant NFL greatness on a college system QB that has never played an NFL down against NFL level competition. That is extremely unlikely, for anybody.

          • Caleb

            Finally, we get to being civilized. Look man, I went to UO and saw Mariota first hand. I know what he can do, and I know he’s not only a system QB. The tools are there, however everything you said IS correct. He is incredibly unproven. From watching him as often as I did, I think he has the tools to make the transition. It will take time, like you suggest, but this whole year he’s been working with Hroniss taking snaps under center, and also working after practice trying to work on his pocket presence. In short, he’s not as new to the idea of a pro style offense as you might think. The only reason I projected Mariota to have such amazing numbers is because, with 600 passing attempts, it’d be hard not to hit those marks. I mean again, Stafford threw for 5,000 yards his first full season for God’s sake. The simple reality is that when given that many throws the numbers will be good, no matter how accurate you are with the ball. And as for Detroit itself, I DON’T believe Mariota is a good fit. They don’t run an offense, nor would they be willing to run an offense, that played to his strengths. The entire point of this project, which again analyzes 25 separate teams, is only to talk about “ifs”. If, for some reason, Detroit were to be totally sold on Mariota and absolutely had to have him (very very very unlikely, I know), this was the situation that I came up with. It’s all hypotheticals, very little of which I actually believe will happen.

  • Ryan

    Watching Stafford every Sunday this past season made me wanna pull my hair out more times than not. He’ll have miraculous throws sometimes but he defaults to throwing 10 feet in the air or in the dirt. That being said, you can keep Mariota. I wish him the best but I would hate to be picking a QB in this year’s draft. Oh and Stafford was 22-12, not 22-18.

    • Caleb

      He also had six fumbles, which is why I said 22-18. I said turnovers, not interceptions.

      • greg

        And a line that was basically on a rotation with the injuries and he was sacked 48 times a league high

        • Caleb

          Very true. The line needs work desperately. I do think Stafford is better than his numbers suggest, but honestly he just hasn’t been good since 2011. Detroit has so much talent, but he just can’t seem to get them over that hump. Maybe a revamped line will be enough to do it.

          • Brandon Rose

            I think he is personally over that hump. Give him some protection, another year to further grasp the drastically different system he ran this year, and another year for the coaching staff to learn his and everyone else’s quirks, and this team can be something special, with Stafford leading the pack. Even “da coach” said so the day before the pro bowl. That’s gotta carry some weight.

  • G money

    Whoever wrote this is a complete douchebag and will never have a career in sports journalism.

  • Nate Williams

    While Mariota has some of the natural talent and skills you would like to see in a quarterback prospect, he proved against a stout Ohio State defense that he isn’t ready to lead a NFL offense, especially Detroit’s.

    He misses a high percentage of intermediate and vertical throws and has shown a lack of anticipation in his wide receiver’s routes.

    How is that an upgrade for the Lions?

    • Caleb

      If you’re basing your assessment off of Mariota’s performance in the BCS game I don’t think that’s fair to say. He was missing the majority of his top weapons (i.e. it was like Stafford playing without CJ, Golden Tate, AND Eric Ebron/Brandon Pettigrew) and Mariota still finished that game with a 65% completion rate, which was actually more like 72% if you discount the three wide open, and I mean WIDE open drops. Although Mariota didn’t play his best, he certainly played better than the majority of that Duck team.

      With that said, my biggest worry about Mariota’s transition is his accuracy on passes 15+ yards down the field. Anticipation will come with experience, but he needs to be able to hit a man in stride which is something he struggled with this season. As for the upgrade for the lions, I think it would only be an upgrade if they were willing to work with him. I think we can all agree Mariota’s biggest asset isn’t his arm, but it’s his legs and how he can use them to extend plays. Designed rollouts, and option sweeps would put Mariota and the Detroit offense in a situation that would make a lot of DC’s very unhappy. Mariota’s not a typical pro-style QB, but then again neither is Russell Wilson but he seems to do just fine up there in Seattle playing the way he does.

      • Nate Williams

        We’re at least partially on the same page here, maybe.

        I agree that Mariota is an intelligent quarterback, and does a great job of completing short passes with his quick release. We also both seem to agree however, that things tend to fall apart when he’s asked to hit receivers further down the field.

        This is an issue that shows up throughout his film, and it is somewhat concerning because it’s difficult to pinpoint a reason why he struggles.

        Which, in turn, brings me to my point — there is no way the Lions would even consider going after Marcus Mariota. Period.

        If you mock a QB to the Lions in the first round, you’ve forced it. Bottom line. Not only is it not a scheme fit in any way, but there is also absolutely no way anyone does an ACTUAL mock draft and says, Lions are at 23 and Mariota is just sitting right there! Maybe they should rebuild their 11-5 team and eat Stafford’s contract!

        With that in mind, on to Stafford:

        In 2014, MS posted his highest completion percentage since 2011 as well as the lowest full-season interception rate of his career. He also threw for more than 4,000 yards for the fourth straight season (which I know you’re aware of), all while absorbing a career high in sacks, and dealing with a sharp drop off in the productivity of the run game.

        Hardly “steady regression”, unless your bench mark is 5,038-yards and 41-touchdowns.

        To say that he is a “product of the system” is honestly ridiculous. Stafford was drafted into Scott Linehan’s system for a reason in 2009, because he was a great fit for the direction the offense was headed in.

        You also cannot diminish Matt’s numbers or performances because he is throwing to Megatron. You don’t respect Joe Montana any less because he had Jerry Rice to throw to, do you?

        And the QBR argument? C’mon man.

        QBR is an acronym for “Total Quarterback Rating,” the very first made-for-TV sports “statistic” brought to you by [Insert Sponsor’s Name Here] and to be televised and discussed wall-to-wall on ESPN. 

        In 2008 Dan Orlovsky QBRed the Lions to 10 losses in 10 games as Detroit became the first team in history to finish 0-16.
         
        The same year, Ben Roethlisberger QBRed Pittsburgh to 12 regular-season wins, two more wins over San Diego and Baltimore in the AFC playoffs, and concluded the season with a majestic two-minute, 78-yard, fourth-quarter scoring drive capped by a perfect TD toss to secure a Super Bowl win over the Cardinals. 

        Cold, Hard Football Facts named that effort the third-best drive in Super Bowl history.
         
        But according to ESPN’s QBR, in 2008, Orlovsky (51.1 QBR) contributed more to winning NFL games than Super Bowl hero Roethlisberger (46.4 QBR).

        Do you believe Pittsburgh would have won that Super Bowl with Orlovsky under center? Made the playoffs? Finished .500? 
         
        Lastly, as far as Mariota’s NFL career goes, wherever it may be, his odds of succeeding are much greater if he isn’t drafted by a QB needy team with his play style, (I.E. RG3).

        He is certainly proficient at making strong decisions based on defensive movement. But his experience reading defenses from the pocket is limited.

        In the NFL, Mariota will face defenses that do a much more efficient job of disguising their blitzes and coverages, forcing him to make adjustments after the snap, something that I think will be his ultimate demise since he received zero experience doing so at Oregon.

        • Caleb

          There’s a lot to respond to so I’m just going to keep it short: this isn’t a mock draft, it’s a project for fun. I don’t think the lions will take him, nor will they trade up for him.

          As far as Mariota goes, we disagree. I think Mariota will be a fine pro. As you said is intelligence, as well as his amazing physical tools, will allow him to adapt to a different style of game although it will certainly take time.

          And lastly, when talking about Stafford, I just simply don’t think he’s that good. His line was awful, but with an offense spearheaded by Calvin Johnson and Golden Tate, receivers that most teams would kill for, he led Detroit to 19th in the league in yards per game and 22nd in the league in points per game. Most of detroits success was attributed to it’s defense, which allowed the second least yards per game and the third least points per game. Detroit could be GREAT but the reality is Stafford simply didn’t get them there.

          • Nate Williams

            Hey man, I respect doing that for fun. I’ve wrote my fair share of those types of articles as well.

            And maybe I’ll be wrong about Mariota. Only time will tell.

            I’ll say one more thing about Stafford though.

            You’re right, the Lions offensive statistics were ranked on the bottom half of the NFL. And as I said before, this does not fall squarely on the shoulders of Matthew Stafford due to injuries, O-line play, and adjustment to a new system.

            The thing is though that with a great defense, Caldwell & Co. were able to dail Stafford back from the way he had played in years past, which in turn lowered his interception percentage to just 2.0.

            I’m not saying that Stafford is perfect either, not by any means. There are things to work on, but the whole regression statement, I think that is an unfair assessment.

            Anyways, I always enjoy a good debate. Feel free to hit me up on twitter sometime, maybe we can have more in the future. (@NateWilliamsNFL)

          • Caleb

            You too, thanks for the conversation.

  • Noah

    Is this one of those joke pages? Matt Stafford will lead the Lions to the Super Bowl this next season. Anybody who says otherwise needs to stop watching college ball and pay attention to the pros.

    • Caleb

      The Lions aren’t even the best team in their division, let alone their conference.

  • Slayme

    Caleb, put down the pipe and try again tomorrow. Did you by chance see Stafford in the probowl? Did you by chance see Eli with a new OC? Did you see MM against the few games with big fast NFL style defense?

    • Caleb

      I’m sorry but there’s no way you’re actually trying to base an argument off of how someone played in the pro bowl.

      • Brandon Rose

        Agree with this though. It’s great to see the hometown QB tear it up in the pro bowl but for real now, cover 2 and zero pass rush? It’s the pro bowl, tackling is equivalent to a friendly hug.

  • citizen x

    Trading Stafford or Johnson for Mariota is not out of the realms of possibility and certainly no one on the Detroit Lions offense is untouchable. The only hole in the argument is that Mariota might not be quite that valuable…He is a runner in the RGIII mold but he will be vulnerable as a poor passer

  • Slayme

    yes and no Caleb, the fact that he was in the probowl (and has been in the mix for the probowl for a few years)combined with the excellent throws he made there, along with my reference to Eli was intended to slap you upside the head with the facts. Stafford with protection is one of the better QB’s in the league. You are suggesting Detroit give up on that? Ask the Browns, the Jets, the Raiders, The Texans, Tennessee and on and on, how hard it is to find a quarterback that can actually play in the NFL. To suggest Detroit trade Stafford and go with a guy who has never taken an NFL snap and IMHO has more likelihood to not make the transition than to make the transition is…is…is …well, like I said put down the pipe.

    • Caleb

      I understand it’s unlikely, but I have to say there are a lot of flaws in your argument. Stafford was only a pro bowler because SEVEN NFL QBs couldn’t make it (Brady, Roethlisberger, Flacco, Wilson, Manning, Rodgers, and Rivers). Stafford was a reserve for the reserves, and considering teams don’t actually play defense in the pro bowl it’s hard to call his performance defining. I would like to see Stafford with adequate protection and see what he can do, but until then he remains an average QB in my mind. Until Stafford can prove otherwise, I think Detroit would be better off moving in another direction considering how close they are to being a Super Bowl team.

      • Brandon Rose

        Let’s not forget that the pro bowl is a popularity contest. Not actual representation of skill. I think your entire article is absolutely insane. Mariota isn’t even pro-ready. Stafford’s numbers are quite gaudy, and 15 4th quarter comebacks don’t just happen without a significant amount of skill and leadership. The drastic decline in turnovers also doesn’t just happen. You’ve clearly no knowledge of the game. He isn’t a game manager as some would suggest, he isn’t a bust or an average at best quarterback. Matthew Stafford has the ability to be great, and shows with every game he plays that he has the desire to be as well. This here is just about the dumbest article I’ve seen. You are out of your mind if you think Mariota is going to even be the number 1 pick. He’s good, but not ready and certainly not even close to a guarantee to be better than Stafford at any point in his career.

        • Caleb

          Drastic decline is a stretch, considering his last four years of turnovers have been 19,20,23, and now 18 (from 2011-2014 in that order). That’s still a lot, and this year he set a career high in fumbles. I know, I know. That has a lot to do with his line, and cutting down the picks was good work, but 18 turnovers is still 18 turnovers. That number NEEDS to go down. As for Mariota, I know he’s not pro ready. It’s the upside that’s so tantalizing. This is also all just for fun, so don’t take it so seriously.

  • RJ Golf

    Thanks for the article. I’ve been a long-suffering Lions fan and love the debate on Matthew Stafford. I do think you could give up at least one less starter (Joique Bell) in your fantasy trade with the Bucs but…..I’m not ready to give up on Matthew just yet.

    Two areas that I would ask for change now on the Lions: 1) either dump the Lions offensive coordinator or, get Caldwell to demand less conservative play calling. I’m not talking wholesale changes but, the conservative play calling is not warranted if you want take advantage of the Matthew Stafford throwing ability. Stafford is not a young rookie any more and it’s time to find out what he can really do. 2) I’d ask Matthew to really work on his footwork and mobility out of the pocket in the off season. He showed me this season that he can move when he has to and we need to see more of it. I’d also like to see a lot less side-arm slinging and full throws (followed by body slams) from the pocket.

    • Caleb

      YES!! Finally a Lions fan with sense. Look, both through my article and through my comments I’m not trying to say Stafford is a dud. I’m saying the situation he’s in with Detroit right now isn’t playing to his strengths. The line is a mess, and as for Stafford himself he needs to work on his areas of weakness as much as the team as a whole does. Detroit is literally inches away from greatness, and with a leap from Stafford (and the team as a whole), they can get there. It’s all or nothing, and if Stafford really is the QB for Detroit he needs to prove it NEXT SEASON. Otherwise, I think they have to go in another direction because there is simply too much talent out in Detroit for them to have another early exit in the playoffs/miss them entirely.

      • RJ Golf

        Caleb, you and I are on exactly the same page.

  • Slayme

    I know I’m sorta repeating myself, but here are all the FIRST round QB’s of the last few years:
    Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater, E J Manuel, Andrew Luck, RG III, Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Weeden, Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman.
    How many of those teams do you think would trade their pick for Stafford? In heartbeat all but maybe two. Not saying Stafford is a top 5 QB, but is he top 10? nuff said

  • citizen x

    Where can I sign…Detroit fans would bless this transaction as well…It’s important for Mayhew to keep an open mind and discuss deals like these….Johnson, Stafford are good but I would consider trading either of them…. Mariota has a lot to learn, it will be painful in year 1