Marcus Mariota to the Dolphins: It Could Work Swimmingly

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Over the next three weeks, FishDuck.com Feature Writer Caleb Couturie will be analyzing the 25 teams in the NFL Draft that may look to select Marcus Mariota.

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No. 13: The Miami Dolphins

MIA’s Draft Pick: Fourteenth

MIA’s 2015 Cap Space: $2,507,059

MIA’s Top Needs: CB, LB, OT/QB

Miami is an interesting place. On one hand, the best team in its division just won the Super Bowl, but on the other the division is wide open. Although Tom Brady & Co. proved they’re all still elite, Brady is 37. His time is running out, no matter how super-human he may appear to be at times. Over the past few years the Dolphins have slowly built themselves into a legitimate contender, and people might finally take them seriously with the addition of one more piece: a QB.

Although Ryan Tannehill is a talented player, and has certainly shown his moments, the Dolphins need more. Tannehill is solid, and he had a serious spike in his numbers last year, but that spike came with an asterisk. Although Tannehill saw an increase in his total yardage, touchdowns and touchdown to int ratio, he still saw his yards per pass numbers rank in the bottom five of the league. Also, although the Dolphins went 8-8, in games against quality opponents (teams with a record over .500) Tannehill went 3-7 as a starter. In short, Tannehill produces average numbers in a system that allows him to throw 590 times in a season, the ninth highest in the league. 2015 is the final year of Tannehill’s rookie contract, and it’s time for the Dolphins to make a decision.

HOW IT CAN HAPPEN:

MIA Trades: Ryan Tannehill, 2015 first, 2015 third, 2016 first, 2017 first and third-round picks.

Tampa Bay Trades: No. 1 pick.

For Tampa Bay, this is ideal. Tannehill has proven he can have moderate success, and in the weaker NFC South Tannehill could excel. Tannehill would be an enormous upgrade from Mike Glennon, and with the weapons surrounding him the Buccaneers offense could see a major boost in production. Plus, with the additional picks, the Bucs could focus on beefing up their defense and actually becoming contenders.

In the case of Miami, this is a big gamble. Trading up to get Marcus Mariota, although an enormous risk, could bring enormous rewards, too. Mariota proved how deadly he can be while at Oregon, and his athletic abilities open up a whole new realm of possibilities for this Dolphin squad. Tannehill is a good QB; there’s no doubt about that. Mariota has the chance to be great, but he also has a chance to fail miserably. In my opinion, Tannehill will never lead the Dolphins to a Super Bowl. His 3-7 record against quality opponents speaks for itself. With Mariota, the Dolphins could reach new heights of productivity and success. It really all depends, though, on how much the Dolphins’ front office feels Tannehill is worth. If he’s going to want big money after this season, they probably couldn’t afford to keep him anyway due to salary cap issues.

HOW MARIOTA WOULD DO IN MIA:

Outside of Mike Wallace, I love the Dolphins offense. Jarvis Landry, a rookie last year, has already proven he can be one of the league’s most dangerous receivers if given enough space. Lamar Miller finally had a breakout season last year, rushing for over 1,000 yards while averaging 5.1 yards per carry. Finally, although the Dolphins have struggled to find an effective way to use him, TE Charles Clay presents a matchup nightmare for opposing defenses. This is a team that’s one solid receiver away from being a legitimately dangerous offense, and the way the recent NFL Drafts have been going it’s safe to say the Dolphins could find one if they used their second-round pick on a WR. Also, Miami is about as close as one can get to Hawaii climate-wise, so it might feel a little homier than other situations would to Mariota. I wouldn’t expect Miami to see more success with Mariota under center right away, but given a year or two the Dolphins could be a much better team.

WOULD HE START?:

There’s only one other QB on the roster, Matt Moore, and he’s a free agent this year. If this trade were to go through, Mariota would definitely be the clear cut starter. With the way the Dolphins offense works, and considering the numbers Tannehill was able to produce in his rookie year, Mariota should see moderate success, too.

QUICK HITS:

MIA’s Projected Record with Mariota: 9-7

MIA’s Projected Record W/O Mariota: 9-7

Mariota’s first year stats: 3,400 yards passing/22 pass TDs/12 INTs/8 Rushing TDs

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Caleb Couturie

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Caleb is a sophomore at the University of Oregon intending to double major in Journalism and Sports Management. He is the Managing Editor for FishDuck.com, along with being a lifetime Saints and San Francisco Giants fan, as Caleb fell in love with sports at a young age and developed that love into a passion for sports analysis. He is looking forward to cheering on the Ducks throughout his career at Oregon, and is always willing to talk sports with any fellow fan.

  • pennyson349

    No thanks it doesn’t sound like the deal we need to me. QB if a need at all is not a dire need . OG,DT And MLB are and maybe a WR or a big RB

  • LostSok

    Insanely dumb. Trade a QB who is over the learning curve and finally playing at a high level for a unproven college-system QB who sucked in his biggest game. While that sadly sounds like something Jeff Ireland might do, I have a lot more faith HIckey is not likely smoking the same crack as the author of this piece.

    • Jason Selby

      Hey, if you paid attention to past pieces, you would understand that this piece is apart of a massive project. It is all hypothetical, and it shows what it would look like for each team if they did in fact draft Mariota. What is the point of saying someone smokes crack? That is not constructive at all.

    • Caleb

      This is a project for fun, not something I actually believe, so hope that clears up any confusion. However, it’s interesting when you say Mariota sucked when he actually threw for 333 yards, two touchdowns, had a completion percentage of 65% and his only interception came on a hail mary. So, if that’s what you qualify as “sucking” I’d love to know what you thought of Cardale Jones’ 242 yard, one touchdown and one interception game. He must just be god awful, right?

      The Ducks lost, yes, but don’t put the blame on Mariota. He did about as much as he could’ve considering four out of his top five receivers were injured.

  • Dewpepis

    The little I have heard points to Mariota having a similar skill set as Tannehill. I do not see the point in throwing away something to get more of the same minus a bunch of nice and high draft picks. Plus Tannehill is finally producing at a slightly above average level with all signs pointing to that he can still do much better.

    • Caleb

      It just depends on how the Dolphins feel about Tannehill’s ceiling, and how far he could take the team.

  • Cynical Charlatan

    Sorry as a diehard dolphin fan I have to be harsh. This article is pure stupidity and lacks perspective and clearly lazy reasearching on the Dolphins. You put a asterisk on his numbers improving because of yards per pass? Well the guy who just won super bowl mvp tom Brady is inches better at yards per attempt and hasn’t been good throwing deep in 3 years. So that shuts down that logic. You claim you like the talent the Dolphins have on offense which just means you’re clueless on good talent. Charles clay isn’t a real tight end he’s a h-back and while good injuries held him back last season. Wallace isn’t a number 1 reciever and hartline and gibson are mediocre players. The oline has been a huge issue for miami. Lamar miller is a decent running back. 1000 yards doesn’t make u great. 5.1 ypc is based off limited carries because he can’t carry the load. ryan Tannehill clearly has been the bright side of this team he has game winning drives against the Seahawks, the steelers, and the patriots. he outplayed aaron Rodgers and had the lead until the defense choked the game on the last drive. defense choked the game with the lions too. Ryan Tannehill played great at Denver but the defense allowed over 200 yards rushing 300 yards passing. The defense was one of the worst stopping the run. Every QB that made the playoffs has 1 weapon on offense that’s better then anything ryan has. So drafting mariota who plays in a bogus offense which doesn’t translate well against NFL defenses is the worst idea ever. Oregon has proven that they lack NFL talent athletes dion Jordan as a example. Mariota does not make the Dolphins better. Better talent on defense and recovers does. Do your homework

    • Caleb

      Okay, so here’s my counter. I did my homework, and not once did I mention hartline or gibson. I mentioned Landry, who is excellent. Clay is a great physical prospect who isn’t used properly in their offense, but never did I say that Mike Wallace is a good player. I, in fact, made exception to him. As for the “bogus offense”e that doesn’t translate to playing well against NFL defenses please explain to me why Chip Kelly has gone 10-6 in each of his first two years using the same bogus offense that Oregon runs now? The point of these articles are for fun, but I won’t be insulted about being uninformed when you know probably about as much about the Oregon offense as I do about the Dolphins offense. And as for the winning drives, all I can say is ??????. The Dolphins didn’t even play the Seahawks or the Steelers this year. That’d be like me saying LeSean McCoy was the best RB in the NFL this year just because he was last year. I recognize that the majority of these articles I write make little sense, and most likely would never happen, but I mean come on. At least give me a better argument as to why I’m wrong. Finally, you mentioned the defense being so terrible, when in reality it allowed the 12th fewest yards per game in the NFL. Albeit not excellent, that’s a lot better than you gave them credit for.

      • Cynical Charlatan

        you claim you like what the Dolphins have on offense so of course you didn’t mention hartline and Gibson because they are mediocre but if you don’t think wallace is good either You make no sense saying you like the talent Tannehill has around him. I love landry but he isn’t elite level. Clay is used correctly by the offense. He’s a guy thst gets yards after the catch to make big plays buts he’s not a type of TE that is a red zone threat that uses his size to make big catches. And it’s a problem to use games from his rookie and second season? Ok that’s a horrible way of judging a talent. Chip Kelly’s offense works because he had pro system qbs that can make it work Mariota hasn’t shown to be anything other then a system qb and oregon NFL talent doesn’t help him. Btw never use total yards to judge a defense. Go look at their yards against the run and try again. Not sure what more facts you need to see you’re wrong. Based off JUST last year Tannehills numbers were a top 10 qb but according to you it’s nothing because of yards per pass so tom Brady and the patriots makes your whole article debunked. Tannehill didn’t have any game winning drives because all their wins were mostly blowouts and all their close losses like Green Bay and detriot Tannehill left the field winning until the defense choked the game. so I’m glad to know these articles are supposed to make little sense because clearly this one does because you have no valid argument on why a qb putting up top 10 numbers after 3 years should be traded when stats and facts prove that this team missed the playoffs because of defense and mediocre offensive weapons that You think is good but can’t name me a playoff qb with less help on offense

        • Caleb

          Most of their wins were blowouts?? Dude where do you get this stuff, seriously? The dolphins won two games last year by more than 14 points and one of those was against the RAIDERS. Tannehill’s and the Dolphins’ cumulative score against quality opponents that they lost to? The fins were outscored 218-127. They lost seven games to quality opponents, averaging 13 points per loss. So, by that measure, they were “blown out” way more than they “blew out”. Oh, and in those seven losses, Tannehill threw for more than 250 yards once. His high for TD’s in those games was three (against a depleted Denver defense). His TD to INT ratio was 10-7 (average of 1.4:1). I mean for God’s sake he threw for only one TD in five of the seven losses. I refuse to believe this is a top ten QB when those are the numbers he produces against quality teams. And please, tell me again how Chip Kelly’s system worked because Mark Sanchez was running it. What a joke.

  • James Booth

    Ok. I understand that this is all hypothetical, but there are some glaring issues with this article that need to be addressed.

    1. The biggest need in Miami is not QB. It’s nowhere near the biggest need. How much film did you watch of the Dolphins?

    In the last two seasons, Tannehill was the most sacked QB in football. Obviously (like any QB), some of the sacks were his fault. However, the vast majority were not his fault. Ever see this video? (http://fansided.com/2014/12/21/miami-dolphins-forget-block-nearly-kill-ryan-tannehill-video/)

    Deep ball connection issues have a lot to do with timing. Think about it. If Wallace could run a 4 second 40 yard dash in pads (which by the way… he can’t), that means every second he’s running 10 yards. If Tannehill has a guy in his face after 2-3 seconds… they’re never going to get enough time to have the play develop.

    Watch the film of Russell Wilson in the Super Bowl. Watch how much time he has. He consistently get 5-7 seconds. That’s a world of difference.

    For a quarter of the season, the offensive line was missing pro bowl center, Mike Pouncey. When he came back, he came back early. He played hurt. And, he played guard because there was such a desperate need at guard (and Satele was doing an ok job at center). Sure, Pouncey did a pretty good job. But, if you watch the film, you can tell he struggled in certain areas (which is something he rarely did at center).

    For half of the season, Branden Albert (starting left tackle) was injured.

    For half of the season, rookie right tackle Ja’Wuan James played starting left tackle. Which means a backup was playing left tackle and right tackle.

    The offensive line was bad this year – mainly because it was a bunch of players who couldn’t land a starting job anywhere else.

    2. I agree that the Bucs should trade later in the draft. But, think about what you said. You “love the Dolphins’ offense.” You think that Tannehill produces average numbers in an offense where he throws a lot. But, you think Tannehill could excel in Tampa. So, you’re essentially saying one of two things:

    A. Tannehill is average. He’s the problem in Miami (even though you recognize that they’re “a solid receiver away from being a legitimately dangerous offense.”). He’s responsible for the rest of the team since “his 3-7 record against quality teams speaks for itself.” Yet, you think he excel in Tampa… even though you think he’s been average… with an offense you “love.”

    Or

    B. Tannehill’s weapons in Miami aren’t amazing (and the Bucs weapons are much much better), but you still blame the Dolphins’ record on Tannehill.

    Sorry buddy. There’s some inconsistency there.

    3. Let’s talk about this offense that you “love” that Tannehill has had to throw to.

    A. Jarvis Landy is an up and coming wide receiver. As well, he was a rookie this season. And, if you watched the games (as I did), you’ll notice that Landry has some issues with drops and carrying the ball. That’s not to take away from what he did. He does look very promising. But, he is not the next Calvin Johnson or AJ Green. He hasn’t proven that he’s a clear cut #1 wide receiver. He’s proven to be a solid #2.

    B. Brian Hartline – Everyone agrees that a QB makes the receivers around him better. You know what kind of receiver Hartline was before Tannehill arrived? A 500 to 600 yard receiver. In Tannehill’s first two years, Hartline had back to back 1,000 seasons. But, when a better option came along (Jarvis Landry), Hartline fell into the roll he really should be – a #3.

    C. Mike Wallace – He’s a deep threat on a team that doesn’t give the QB enough time to throw. He doesn’t adjust to the ball well. And, he makes stupid decisions (Remember this year when he tried to catch the ball one-handed… and dropped a TD… when he could have easily brought his second hand in and caught it).

    Mike Wallace was supposed to be the #1 that the Dolphins QB needed. But, he hasn’t been that. Look how much better Antonio Brown has done in that role in Pittsburgh.

    D. Brandon Gibson – He’s injury prone. He’s not that fast. He’s a depth guy.

    E. Rishard Matthews – He’s another depth guy. He’s not going to blow anyone out of the water.

    F. Charles Clay – He’s a solid TE. He’s not a Jimmy Graham, Julius Thomas, or Rob Gronkowski. He’s not. Maybe if he were 3 to 4 inches taller. But, he’s a 6’3 TE, with good route running skills and a good ability to make plays after the catch. But, he’s not the type of guy you can lob the ball to in the red zone because he’ll out jump everyone.

    4. Oh, Mariota would bring athletic ability to the QB position? Hmm. You’re right. This former WR (who ran a faster 40 yard dash time that Andrew Luck), is not athletic at all.

    5. You say Tannehill is a good QB (while also calling him average), but you think it’s a good idea to get rid of a good QB for a guy who (as you say) could “fail miserably?”

    6. Where’s Tannehill’s #1 receiver? Where is he? You agree that Wallace isn’t the guy.

    Andy Dalton has AJ Green. Matthew Stafford has Calvin Johnson. And, Tannehill has been looking better than both of those QBs.

    Tannehill has improved every year. And, he’s had who to throw to over his career? Legedu Naanee? Brian Hartline? Davone Bess? Anthony Fasano? Rishard Matthews? Oh, and btw, this year was Tannehill’s (and everyone else in this offense) first year in a new offense.

    You’re absolutely right. The Dolphins do need more. But, unless you’re putting Aaron Rodgers on the team, it would be entirely stupid to get rid of Ryan Tannehill.

  • Caleb

    Okay, wow, that’s a lot to respond too. I think Tannehill is an average QB who could post good numbers if given a better team. I love the Dolphins offense because it is up and coming, not because it’s excellent now. I’m a Ducks fan, so I think of an offense in terms of pieces, not the entire thing. If that’s flawed, so be it. And trust me, I recognize the Dolphins’ biggest issue isn’t at QB. That’s why I listed that their top three issues to address were CB, LB, and OL with WR probably cracking that list too. Here’s my bottom line: I don’t believe Ryan Tannehill will ever lead the Dolphins to a Super Bowl, even if his receivers were CJ, AJ Green, and Antonio Brown. I just don’t think he has the ability to perform consistently against top tier talent. So, although yes Mariota would be an ENORMOUS risk, his ceiling is super high. If he’s a system QB and his skills don’t translate to the NFL it’s a huge miss. But say he isn’t. Say he actually can perform at the higher level. He already has a very high IQ, and that paired with his athletic abilities which are unquestionably better than Tannehill’s (just watch any designed run to the outside), than maybe, and just maybe, the Dolphins get a home run. Mariota’s either a boom or bust, that’s how I feel. Tannehill will forever be good. Unless the Dolphins build a Seahawks-esque defense, they won’t win a SB with him.

    • James Booth

      Here’s the problem. You’re bringing up his inability to perform against top-tier talent (I’m assuming you’re mentioning his previously mentioned 3-7 record).

      Record against teams… is a team stat. It’s annoying to hear things like record against teams. QBs can have a good game against a team, and the team can still win. I don’t blame Mariota for the loss in the national championship. It would be stupid to. Just like it is stupid to blame Tannehill for having a 3-7 record against .500 or above teams.

      My comment about the Dolphins not needing a QB was in response to your sentence “Over the past few years the Dolphins have slowly built themselves into a legitimate contender, and people might finally take them seriously with the addition of one more piece: a QB.”

      Your assumption of Tannehill not being able to win a SB is based on the flawed premise to which I just responded.

      Tannehill was great against the Broncos this season. He even brought the team back to score when it looked like the game was over (because btw of a Jarvis Landry blunder). But, the Dolphins were missing 3 out of their 4 CBs. They literally picked up RJ Stanford off the street to play in that game (and had no other depth). Pretty hard to beat Peyton Manning… when the guys covering his receivers are scrubs.

      The Dolphins would have won against the Packers had Aaron Rodgers not thrown a TD with 5 seconds to go. Tannehill statistically blew Russell Wilson out of the water in his game vs the Packers – as Russell Wilson threw 0 TDs and 4 INTs in 4 quarters.

      Tannehill beat the Patriots once this year (something Andrew Luck couldn’t do). Btw, Luck threw 36% completion, 0 TDs, and 2 INTs vs the Patriots. Tannehill vs that same team blew Luck’s stats out of the water.

      I’m not saying Tannehill is better than Luck. I’m just pointing out the obvious that you must not have watched that much film on the Dolphins.

      As well, you don’t think Tannehill could win even with a Calvin Johnson or AJ Green. Really? You’ve admitted that Wallace isn’t good. You know Landry is a rookie who is still progressing. And, you appear intelligent enough to understand that Hartline, Gibson, and Matthews are at best 3rd or 4th receivers. Clay is good, but he’s not Gronk/Graham good. They have a height/vertical leap advantage. And, btw, you could make the argument that he’s become a much better TE since working with Tannehill.

      So, Tannehill’s putting up pretty solid statistics with lackluster talent around him. You don’t think giving him a solid #1 receiver would give him a chance?

      It’s a team sport. I’m tired of hearing people use wins and losses as a measure of a QB. It’s as ridiculous as saying Dilfer and Rypien were better than Marino because they have SB rings and Marino doesn’t.

      • Caleb

        I agree it’s a team sport, but Tannehill has underperformed greatly in those games (ESPECIALLY the seven the Dolphins lost). I know it’s not all him, but here are his numbers from those seven losses:

        “In those seven losses, Tannehill threw for more than 250 yards once. His high for TD’s in those games was three (against a depleted Denver defense). His TD to INT ratio was 10-7 (average of 1.4:1 over the seven). In five of the seven games he only threw one touchdown.”

        That’s not enough, even if your team is screwing up with you. That’s all I’m saying.

        • James Booth

          1. What are you talking about depleted Broncos defense? I hope you don’t mean by injuries, because Denver only had two players listed as out that game (Montee Ball and Ronnie Hillman – offensive players). Week -12 http://www.denverbroncos.com/team/injury-report.html

          2. If we’re getting technical (again, it seems like you haven’t watched a lot of film of the Dolphins – as you report on the Oregon Ducks), but I can assure you that at least one of those INTs (probably more, but I can remember one clearly off the top of my head) was due to a receiver drop (remember that Jarvis Landry blunder to which I was referring earlier?). The ball hit the receiver in stride, right in the hands… and it popped up and got intercepted. But, again you’re going purely off stats. So, that’s definitely Tannehill’s fault. Not that 10:6 ratio is that much better than a 10:7. However, typically experts believe that a 2:1 ratio of TDs:INTs is solid. 10:6 is one INT away from 2:1. Oh, and I mentioned Mike Wallace TD drops (and giving up on plays)… that would have given Tannehill a few more TDs (and some extra Miami wins). But, you’re just looking at statistics – as you haven’t really watched the Dolphins and yet have still formed an opinion.

          3. Saying “that’s not enough, even if your team is screwing up with you,” is a very naive thing to say. Let me ask you this: Why is a blind-side tackle so important? Why are offensive linemen so important?

          I’m telling you – get NFL rewind. Watch Tannehill’s dropbacks. Sure, there are times here or there that he takes too long to make a decision (as even Brady and Rodgers sometimes does).

          But, the time he gets to complete a pass is way less than all the “elite” passers in the NFL.

          I mentioned it before about Russell Wilson in the Super Bowl. He would drop back, and a lot of times he’d have 6, 7, 8 seconds before he’d start to get a little bit of pressure.

          If Tannehill’s team is screwing up by not protecting him, he’s not going to be able to go through his progression.

          Every great QB has at least an average offensive line.

          Miami’s has been atrocious.

          So, you can sit there and talk specific stats all you’d like. And, talk about the 3-7 record (which of course I thought I parried quite nicely with that Mariota referrence).

          But, if Tannehill’s supporting cast is screwing up by dropping perfectly thrown TD passes or not giving him enough time to get the ball away cleanly, Tannehill’s stats suffer and the team loses.

          You’re over there saying he’s not doing enough. And, it’s clear you have no idea what you’re talking about.

          4. I’m a Miami Dolphins fan. I have been as long as I can remember. I watched Marino. And, I’ve waited through the Jay Fiedler, AJ Feeley, Gus Frerrote, Daunte Culpepper, Joey Harrington, John Beck, Cleo Lemon, etc. days.

          I can tell you this: Since Dan Marino retired, I haven’t been excited about a Dolphins’ QB until Ryan Tannehill.

          This guy didn’t get 3-4 years playing QB in college to develop his skill. He wanted playing time; so, he played WR. He only played 19 games as a college QB.

          He came into the league and started day one.

          And, he has progressed every season. Even if you’re just looking at stats, every year he has gotten better. He hasn’t declined. Even with the task of learning a new offense this season, he has gotten better.

          Could you imagine if even he had the same weapons he already has, but he had the Broncos, Ravens, or Bengals offensive line? Or even if he had a mediocre o-line like Pittsburgh, Atlanta, or New Orleans.

          As a Dolphins fan, I want the team to be successful. I don’t owe anything to Ryan Tannehill.

          I am and always will be a Dolphins fan first. So, why would I argue so much for a guy? Because he’s actually the real deal.

          I’m not going to say he’s going to be the next Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.

          But, if he continues to progress the way he has been every year, maybe he might one day be that kind of QB.

          Look at Brady at the beginning of his career. Well, you may not remember as you were I’m assuming roughly 5 when he became the Patriots’ starting QB.

          Everyone talks about Brady because of his SB wins. But, those aren’t what make him great. In fact, look back at how they won those first three Super Bowls.

          They had a spectacular defense. He did a decent job managing the game. Every now and again, he’d make a pretty great throw. But a lot of the time, Brady would get them into field goal range, and Vinatieri would get the game-winning field goal.

          But, if you look back at his career, you’ll notice that it wasn’t until his 7 year starting (8th year total – as he wasn’t starting as a rookie) that he finally started putting up elite numbers.

          Brady is a guy that everyone will agree is a first ballot hall of fame QB. Before that, his numbers are pretty similar to Ryan Tannehill’s.

          Obviously, I’m saying things, and you’re going to side-step them. So, I’ll get the argument out of the way. You’ll say something again about how Tannehill’s not good enough – he didn’t do well against tough competition (which we’ve gone over) – it apparently doesn’t matter the weapons around him (even though all the greats have at least a decent supporting cast) – something about throwing 1 TD in 5 of the losses (which of course if he had at least mediocre blocking and at least a middle of the pack receiving corp, anyone with a brain could see that he would have gotten at least a few more TDs and at least a few less INTs). You wind up saying something semi cliche or probably taken from a James Walker article. And, I’ll respond back with a long, drawn out post about why you’re wrong :)

          I hope Mariota ends up wherever you want him to (unless that team is the Dolphins) – well if he ends up on the Jets, Bills, or Patriots I’ll have to root against him. So, let’s just say I hope he ends up anywhere but the AFC East… unless he’s going to suck. If that’s the case, I hope the Jets get him :)

  • Caleb

    To be honest your posts are too long to read to respond too. I think we can agree on one thing: we will never agree about Tannehill. Fair?

    I think it is. Thanks for the read.

    • James Booth

      Well you can say we agree on two things:

      1. I agree that I am wordy.

      2. We’ll never agree on Tannehill.

      I’m sorry for the long responses. Since you had side-stepped some of my comments that took away validity to your arguments, I had figured you hadn’t read all of my responses.

      One quick word of advice: In a comment to Cynical Charlatan, you admitted that you were not offended by being called uninformed about the Dolphins’ offense and that you knew probably as much about the Dolphins’ offense as Cynical Charlatan did about Oregon’s offense.

      While it’s admirable of you to admit that you don’t know everything, it takes away a lot of your validity as a writer. As I had previously written and you (as you admitted) probably didn’t read, go watch the film of a player you’re writing about. If you want to make it in this industry, you’ll need to be the most knowledgable guy in the room/website/twitter. People will respect you more when you’ve actually put in all the time. As this is a hypothetical article, I don’t blame you for relying on others’ articles (I feel a lot of James Walker in this). But, try not to be so headstrong about something that you’re not 100% educated about.

      Good luck to you in your writing career.

      • Caleb

        Look, I write a new one of these every day. I’m a full time student doing this in my free time. If I had the time to watch film and do in depth research I would, but the reality is I simply don’t have that time. My research skims the surface, and the rest is based off of knowledge I already have. The point of these articles isn’t to be realistic (hence the disclaimer at the top warning that these are all hypotheticals), it’s for fun.

  • Eric

    This is a total joke. James Booth did a good job summing everything up, so I won’t get into talking about lack of offensive line / WRs, Tannehill’s numbers, or the fact that the “3-7 record against quality teams” that you keep hanging your hat on includes multiple games where Tannehill led the team on a drive to take the lead in the final 5 minutes only to see the defense give up the lead on the final series. You don’t know anything about the Dolphins, Tannehill or how NFL trades / draft picks are valued. The Dolphins would not (and should not) trade Tannehill for Mariota in a straight-up deal with no other compensation. This is one of the stupidest and most unthoughtful articles I have ever read.

    • Eric

      Also, just to be clear, there is a well-established, long-standing draft pick value chart that is based on a point system that most teams use when determining relative fair value for draft pick trades. The number one overall pick is worth 3,000 points. The 14 overall pick (where the Dolphins pick) is worth 1,100 points. The Dolphins 3rd round pick (78 overall) is worth 200 points. Assume the Dolphins finish middle-of-the-pack again next year and have even a worse pick at number 16 (right in the middle of the 32 NFL teams), then their 2016 first-rounder is worth 1,000 points. Assume they are in the middle in 2017 and again pick 16, then that pick is also worth 1,000 points, in which case their 2017 3rd round pick in 2017 would be number 80 overall and worth 190 points. So, in your HYPOTHETICAL scenario, the Dolphins are giving up an expected draft pick value of 3,490 points, PLUS a proven, ascending, young quarterback who has improved every year and whose numbers were far better than at least one Pro Bowl QBs (see Andy Dalton). In exchange for all of this, the Dolphins get 3,000 points of value in the first overall pick this year. This is pure stupidity.

      Not to mention that it is well known that the Dolphins coach (Joe Philbin) and GM (Dennis Hickey) are likely going to be fired after this year if they don’t make the playoffs. So I’m sure that they are thinking that they should hit the reset button and take a gamble on a rookie QB when they already have a very good 4th year QB who has gotten better every year and has not hit his ceiling yet. Do some research dude.

      • Caleb

        It’s just for fun man, take a chill pill. You even referenced that it’s a hypothetical. I don’t know why you, and the rest of the commenters, taking it so seriously.

        • Eric

          It would be more fun if it were more thoughtful and creative while still within the realm of reasonable and realistic possibility. My comments are for fun too.

  • Eric

    Also, just an observation, but what’s with the picture accompanying this article? Ted Ginn and Lousaka Polite in a 2009 photo from a regular season game against the Chargers? Couldn’t get anything more recent or relevant? Maybe a picture of Tannehill so the picture at least goes with one of the subjects of your article?

    • Caleb

      We have to use free photos that won’t get us sued. This is the best I could do man.

  • Hate0eight

    let the bucs have mariota, and let phins fans watch TB make it to another playoffs before 17 and without Suh. wat has MIA gotten in the past FIVE drafts? a charles clay, a reshad jones, and an OV.